What payment innovation of the last two years will have the biggest impact on the industry?
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Imagine. An online shopper at a merchant's payment form provides a temporary/encrypted representation of his credit card information. The merchant uses the encrypted data to obtain payment authorization as usual, but does not have access to the actual card data. The encrypted payment data is further set to expire within a set number of days by the card holder. After the said days, the payment data is completely useless. Net effects: 1) PCI-Compliance for the merchants which can be audited easily/remotely 2) Improved shopper confidence/loyalty
How it works: http://teststore.storeadmin.com
-PaymentSeal
Posted by James Lin, 29/06/2010 6:06pm (2 years ago)
A development being overlooked by payments pundits is the use of smart phones by restaurant operators to enable their customers to find nearby locations, review menus, order food, and prepay.
Consumers are using their mobile phones for take-out, delivery, even dine-in meals. Operators are finding efficiencies in enabling customers to skip the line with their phones, especially when the mobile ordering is integrated into restaurant POS systems.
Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were the early innovators in mobile ordering. Today, thousands of restaurant locations across the U.S. have enabled mobile ordering and payment.
Our best estimate is that consumers in the U.S. are currently ordering and paying for more than $250 million annualized in meals using applications developed specifically for mobile phones.
Consumer behaviors and practices being formed by ordering and paying for meals with mobile phones will set the stage for similar retail applications.
I should mention that I've been working with a southern California mobile technology company called Just Enjoy (http://JustEnjoy.com) that is gaining traction in the space.
Posted by Dan Stiel, 29/06/2010 9:49am (2 years ago)
A development being overlooked by payments pundits is the use of smart phones by restaurant operators to enable their customers to find nearby locations, review menus, order food, and prepay.
Consumers are using their mobile phones for take-out, delivery, even dine-in meals. Operators are finding efficiencies in enabling customers to skip the line with their phones, especially when the mobile ordering is integrated into restaurant POS systems.
Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were the early innovators in mobile ordering. Today, thousands of restaurant locations across the U.S. have enabled mobile ordering and payment.
Our best estimate is that consumers in the U.S. are currently ordering and paying for more than $250 million annualized in meals using applications developed specifically for mobile phones.
Consumer behaviors and practices being formed by ordering and paying for meals with mobile phones will set the stage for similar retail applications.
I should mention that I've been working with a southern California mobile technology company called Just Enjoy (http://JustEnjoy.com) that is gaining traction in the space.
Posted by Dan Stiel, 29/06/2010 9:48am (2 years ago)
Do we really believe there have been significant payment innovations in the last two years? My view is that the incredible surge in social media married with existing payment applications will be the major driver of change in payments. It's not the way payments are made - that's a question of adoption rather than innovation - it's the way consumers (and businesses) are increasingly using new interfaces to make payments. Mobile payments, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are just illustrations of the market catching up with the 10 year old concepts of the e-wallet, electronic bill pay and more.
Posted by Scott Songer, 29/06/2010 8:55am (2 years ago)
Do we really believe there have been significant payment innovations in the last two years? My view is that the incredible surge in social media married with existing payment applications will be the major driver of change in payments. It's not the way payments are made - that's a question of adoption rather than innovation - it's the way consumers (and businesses) are increasingly using new interfaces to make payments. Mobile payments, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are just illustrations of the market catching up with the 10 year old concepts of the e-wallet, electronic bill pay and more.
Posted by Scott Songer, 29/06/2010 8:55am (2 years ago)
I agree that mobile payments can be effective when it comes to handling low-value transactions.
I think MPESA is a good alternative for emerging economies in Africa since it doesn't require the physical presence of banks, which tends to be a little more practical due to the lack of infrastructure. (i.e. public transportation, computer access and technology, etc). This system was quicker to build up, and I think it was easily accepted since the market was open for change.
On the other hand, current banking systems in Europe have been built into local infrastructure for years. Including mobile payments will likely create more competition for the banks themselves, and shifting into a system such as MPESA in Europe would likely be met with a lot of resistance, especially by the banks.
Posted by Mark Gerban, 28/06/2010 6:35pm (2 years ago)
ohn Aldridge South Africa. I note Mark Gerbans comments but think the mobile payments thrust will come from cash-replacement transactions - and these will be low value .... maybe less then $50.00. I think all banks (not just European) will struggle if they try to follow the card model with multiple banks requiring complex, expensive networks and settlement procedures. Just as MPESA succeeded in Kenya by being first to market with 90% retail exposure thru their airtime sales, in any on-line banking community, the first to market with mobile payments must have the infrastructure to dominate the market. This will dramatically reduce security threats with their single account presence, and ensure the costs are kept to a small fraction of those for card services. I think all first world economies could support mobile payments, and looking at Africa we can also track the emerging mobile model once we confirm stable GPRS local mobile networks. I think it is difficult for us all to drop the old banking mindset when we are given the power and flexibility of mobile technology.
Posted by John Aldridge, 28/06/2010 6:34pm (2 years ago)
Look through most of the discussion, mobile payments are most likely the biggest thing to hit the market over the past few years, and the increased use of smart-phones will help utilize this growth.
Applications themselves will continue to develop, but it might take some time for mobile payments to make a larger impact due to the maximum pay-limits set upon them.
It might be difficult for European banks to get a little more involved in the Payment industry simply because the present infrastructure is too unstable. Since banks are the base of our financial system, carrying on additional services will increase risks to an already shaky system. Remember, banks are still cleaning up from "stable investments", such as those from the real-estate crisis and other forms of business, which means their current capacity to innovate is fairly limited.
Posted by Mark Gerban, 28/06/2010 6:34pm (2 years ago)
John Aldridge Johannesburg South Africa. I read with interest the various thoughts and comments. Most initial comments from Russel and gary are fine, but I worry about guys saying that we do not need banks - or wecan eliminate cash. I think too many comments coming from US based articles are introvert, and show little knowledge of the real world outside the US? In Africa the average cash transaction is less than US$2.00 and with 25m people buying prepaid airtime in similar small increments, we are looking at a micropayment requirement rather than a payment option to replace cards? The actual cost to an SA card issuing Bank is approx $1.00 to acquire a transaction including staffing/comms/IT/interchange etc. That might be okay for 3m wealthy families in SA... but not the other 35m. Lets agree the modern cellphone is rapidly becoming the one single personal technology device. To make it a banking terminal we have to have internet comms (minimum GPRS) and apps with basic security, and bank hosts with simple cash-replacement features. In SA we will shortyl have a system that will offer free banking to the individual... with comms cost of less then US$0.001, and minimal host costs covered by retail acquiring charges. M-PESA in Kenya works by using airtime as a currency.... in the real world our banks have to control our funds - and especially exchange rates for cross-border transactions. Sadly GSMA are working too close to the Card Manufacturers, and they will push for EMC/card standards on phone... that might suit London and NY.... but not those of us in the real world.
Posted by John Aldridge, 28/06/2010 6:33pm (2 years ago)
I am still waiting to see a mobile payment application that has sustainability. No industry standard (yet), no industry standard maker (yet), some very cool apps but they are platform specific (not an industry standard or maker), so we are at the Betamax vs VHS point in mobile payments. Except instead of two, we have a dozen or more.
I sat in PaybyTouch presentations and Revolution Money/Card presentations and knew at the time that neither was a complete thought. I have read a few articles that I thought were interesting. But the real answer for mobile payments is any phone/any merchant. Banks will have no play, carriers will have no play, associations will have no play. It has to be ubiquitous. Now what you have is payment models requiring special phones, special terminals, certain carriers, special stick-ons, SD cards, etc., etc. That is not a sustainable model.
10 years ago, online payments were going to revolutionize the payments market and yet today, all we see are different models but all using the same established financial infrastructure, ACH, the Fed, V/MC/DISC/AMEX and debit networks. Paypal is different, but not that different.
Coming out of the wireless industry, I know there are opportunities out there for mobile payments but in the US market, adoption is driven by motivations that not all innovations address. We have seen in the past that not always is the new perfect product the one adopted by the public. I am still in a wait and see mode.
But I am game...I also will go with mobile payments, but I think there will be a bunch of players falling down by the wayside. Two days ago, I drew out my mobile payment solution theory on a piece of paper during a flight from Vegas to Atlanta while (you can guess) reading an article about mobile payments. So my brainchild is now on a piece of paper, but it will be awhile before I touch it again. Like I said, it has to be ubiquitous and must be sustainable. It still needs work.
Posted by Phil Huston, 28/06/2010 6:33pm (2 years ago)
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Imagine. An online shopper at a merchant's payment form provides a temporary/encrypted representation of his credit card information. The merchant uses the encrypted data to obtain payment authorization as usual, but does not have access to the actual card data. The encrypted payment data is further set to expire within a set number of days by the card holder. After the said days, the payment data is completely useless.
Net effects:
1) PCI-Compliance for the merchants which can be audited easily/remotely
2) Improved shopper confidence/loyalty
How it works: http://teststore.storeadmin.com
-PaymentSeal
Posted by James Lin, 29/06/2010 6:06pm (2 years ago)
A development being overlooked by payments pundits is the use of smart phones by restaurant operators to enable their customers to find nearby locations, review menus, order food, and prepay.
Consumers are using their mobile phones for take-out, delivery, even dine-in meals. Operators are finding efficiencies in enabling customers to skip the line with their phones, especially when the mobile ordering is integrated into restaurant POS systems.
Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were the early innovators in mobile ordering. Today, thousands of restaurant locations across the U.S. have enabled mobile ordering and payment.
Our best estimate is that consumers in the U.S. are currently ordering and paying for more than $250 million annualized in meals using applications developed specifically for mobile phones.
Consumer behaviors and practices being formed by ordering and paying for meals with mobile phones will set the stage for similar retail applications.
I should mention that I've been working with a southern California mobile technology company called Just Enjoy (http://JustEnjoy.com) that is gaining traction in the space.
Posted by Dan Stiel, 29/06/2010 9:49am (2 years ago)
A development being overlooked by payments pundits is the use of smart phones by restaurant operators to enable their customers to find nearby locations, review menus, order food, and prepay.
Consumers are using their mobile phones for take-out, delivery, even dine-in meals. Operators are finding efficiencies in enabling customers to skip the line with their phones, especially when the mobile ordering is integrated into restaurant POS systems.
Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were the early innovators in mobile ordering. Today, thousands of restaurant locations across the U.S. have enabled mobile ordering and payment.
Our best estimate is that consumers in the U.S. are currently ordering and paying for more than $250 million annualized in meals using applications developed specifically for mobile phones.
Consumer behaviors and practices being formed by ordering and paying for meals with mobile phones will set the stage for similar retail applications.
I should mention that I've been working with a southern California mobile technology company called Just Enjoy (http://JustEnjoy.com) that is gaining traction in the space.
Posted by Dan Stiel, 29/06/2010 9:48am (2 years ago)
Do we really believe there have been significant payment innovations in the last two years? My view is that the incredible surge in social media married with existing payment applications will be the major driver of change in payments. It's not the way payments are made - that's a question of adoption rather than innovation - it's the way consumers (and businesses) are increasingly using new interfaces to make payments. Mobile payments, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are just illustrations of the market catching up with the 10 year old concepts of the e-wallet, electronic bill pay and more.
Posted by Scott Songer, 29/06/2010 8:55am (2 years ago)
Do we really believe there have been significant payment innovations in the last two years? My view is that the incredible surge in social media married with existing payment applications will be the major driver of change in payments. It's not the way payments are made - that's a question of adoption rather than innovation - it's the way consumers (and businesses) are increasingly using new interfaces to make payments. Mobile payments, Twitter, Facebook, etc. are just illustrations of the market catching up with the 10 year old concepts of the e-wallet, electronic bill pay and more.
Posted by Scott Songer, 29/06/2010 8:55am (2 years ago)
I agree that mobile payments can be effective when it comes to handling low-value transactions.
I think MPESA is a good alternative for emerging economies in Africa since it doesn't require the physical presence of banks, which tends to be a little more practical due to the lack of infrastructure. (i.e. public transportation, computer access and technology, etc). This system was quicker to build up, and I think it was easily accepted since the market was open for change.
On the other hand, current banking systems in Europe have been built into local infrastructure for years. Including mobile payments will likely create more competition for the banks themselves, and shifting into a system such as MPESA in Europe would likely be met with a lot of resistance, especially by the banks.
Posted by Mark Gerban, 28/06/2010 6:35pm (2 years ago)
ohn Aldridge South Africa. I note Mark Gerbans comments but think the mobile payments thrust will come from cash-replacement transactions - and these will be low value .... maybe less then $50.00. I think all banks (not just European) will struggle if they try to follow the card model with multiple banks requiring complex, expensive networks and settlement procedures. Just as MPESA succeeded in Kenya by being first to market with 90% retail exposure thru their airtime sales, in any on-line banking community, the first to market with mobile payments must have the infrastructure to dominate the market. This will dramatically reduce security threats with their single account presence, and ensure the costs are kept to a small fraction of those for card services. I think all first world economies could support mobile payments, and looking at Africa we can also track the emerging mobile model once we confirm stable GPRS local mobile networks. I think it is difficult for us all to drop the old banking mindset when we are given the power and flexibility of mobile technology.
Posted by John Aldridge, 28/06/2010 6:34pm (2 years ago)
Look through most of the discussion, mobile payments are most likely the biggest thing to hit the market over the past few years, and the increased use of smart-phones will help utilize this growth.
Applications themselves will continue to develop, but it might take some time for mobile payments to make a larger impact due to the maximum pay-limits set upon them.
It might be difficult for European banks to get a little more involved in the Payment industry simply because the present infrastructure is too unstable. Since banks are the base of our financial system, carrying on additional services will increase risks to an already shaky system. Remember, banks are still cleaning up from "stable investments", such as those from the real-estate crisis and other forms of business, which means their current capacity to innovate is fairly limited.
Posted by Mark Gerban, 28/06/2010 6:34pm (2 years ago)
John Aldridge Johannesburg South Africa. I read with interest the various thoughts and comments. Most initial comments from Russel and gary are fine, but I worry about guys saying that we do not need banks - or wecan eliminate cash. I think too many comments coming from US based articles are introvert, and show little knowledge of the real world outside the US? In Africa the average cash transaction is less than US$2.00 and with 25m people buying prepaid airtime in similar small increments, we are looking at a micropayment requirement rather than a payment option to replace cards? The actual cost to an SA card issuing Bank is approx $1.00 to acquire a transaction including staffing/comms/IT/interchange etc. That might be okay for 3m wealthy families in SA... but not the other 35m. Lets agree the modern cellphone is rapidly becoming the one single personal technology device. To make it a banking terminal we have to have internet comms (minimum GPRS) and apps with basic security, and bank hosts with simple cash-replacement features. In SA we will shortyl have a system that will offer free banking to the individual... with comms cost of less then US$0.001, and minimal host costs covered by retail acquiring charges. M-PESA in Kenya works by using airtime as a currency.... in the real world our banks have to control our funds - and especially exchange rates for cross-border transactions. Sadly GSMA are working too close to the Card Manufacturers, and they will push for EMC/card standards on phone... that might suit London and NY.... but not those of us in the real world.
Posted by John Aldridge, 28/06/2010 6:33pm (2 years ago)
I am still waiting to see a mobile payment application that has sustainability. No industry standard (yet), no industry standard maker (yet), some very cool apps but they are platform specific (not an industry standard or maker), so we are at the Betamax vs VHS point in mobile payments. Except instead of two, we have a dozen or more.
I sat in PaybyTouch presentations and Revolution Money/Card presentations and knew at the time that neither was a complete thought. I have read a few articles that I thought were interesting. But the real answer for mobile payments is any phone/any merchant. Banks will have no play, carriers will have no play, associations will have no play. It has to be ubiquitous. Now what you have is payment models requiring special phones, special terminals, certain carriers, special stick-ons, SD cards, etc., etc. That is not a sustainable model.
10 years ago, online payments were going to revolutionize the payments market and yet today, all we see are different models but all using the same established financial infrastructure, ACH, the Fed, V/MC/DISC/AMEX and debit networks. Paypal is different, but not that different.
Coming out of the wireless industry, I know there are opportunities out there for mobile payments but in the US market, adoption is driven by motivations that not all innovations address. We have seen in the past that not always is the new perfect product the one adopted by the public. I am still in a wait and see mode.
But I am game...I also will go with mobile payments, but I think there will be a bunch of players falling down by the wayside. Two days ago, I drew out my mobile payment solution theory on a piece of paper during a flight from Vegas to Atlanta while (you can guess) reading an article about mobile payments. So my brainchild is now on a piece of paper, but it will be awhile before I touch it again. Like I said, it has to be ubiquitous and must be sustainable. It still needs work.
Posted by Phil Huston, 28/06/2010 6:33pm (2 years ago)
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